Skeet with the M90 Shotgun From Halo (What Could Go Wrong?)

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1. You should take this to a Finnish Brutality Match. Try it there .

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2. Was there a shotgun stage in that…? I don’t remember.

   That said, I think there will be a moment in history, likely “now” or sometime soon, when a “Squad Skeet Weapon” will become tactically relevant, and it might not be a bad time to start thinking about how such a “drone close defense weapon” might work best.

   I’m thinking something like a pistol-grip Benelli with an extended magazine and about a 20″ barrel from their goose gun, plus some enhanced ammo.

   I’m sure the drone guys will come up with a counter-measure, but for the moment, that looks like a good idea from where I’m sitting. The “three-gun match” thing may have a real tactical role for the shotgun, going forward.

   Can’t wait to see what happens when some yucklehead here in the states weaponizes a drone for going after cops or something equally stupid. I’m gonna guess we’ll see eventual criminal use of these things, eventually, maybe in bank robberies? Have a drone w/shaped charge hanging outside the drive-up window, demanding cash be dumped into the cargo drone’s belly…?

   I liked it a lot better when the things I imagined didn’t actually exist…

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   • “(…)criminal use of these things(…)”
     As we are discussing that w.r.t to HALO video-game inspired weapon I want to point usage of unmanned aerial vehicle for purpose of placing explosives illegally appear in GTA Vice City video game https://www.ign.com/wikis/grand-theft-auto-vice-city/Demolition_Man
     Usage of unmanned aerial vehicle for purpose of heroin smuggle in 2015 was reported by https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/narcodrones-180974934/

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   • “(…)drone close defense weapon(…)”
     Apparently someone entertained that and concluded that Modern problems require Victorian solutions and build double, triple and quadruple high-angle mounts for Maxim machine gun, see photos https://topwar.ru/238241-ukrainskie-zenitnye-pulemety-vintovochnogo-kalibra.html

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     • Not exactly a man-portable solution…

       I’m looking at something more addressing those situations you keep seeing wherein the poor bastards are running around trees and wrecked armored vehicles trying to E&E (escape and evade) from a first-person drone…

       What I think they need to do is work out some sort of effective drone round that can be fired from one of those under-barrel shotguns they developed for breaching. Hell, even a one-shot deal like an expendable LAW would be better than nothing…

       I keep putting myself in the “that guy” position, trying to imagine doing the necessary under those circumstances. So far, about all I can come up with is keeping an “assault goose gun” to hand, and pumping however many shells it might take to put those FPV drones down…

       I don’t see this working out for the light infantryman in the near-term, unless something is done. Enough of these FPV drones in the air, and any attack made is going to evaporate like so much cold water thrown onto a red-hot griddle…

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       • If you need weapon with Handheld attribute for said purpose then use https://armourersbench.com/2024/02/25/ukraines-handheld-fpv-killer/

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3. I’m guessing for drone defense someone will go back to the failed late WWII-era German projects, like, say, the _fliegerfaust_ multi-barrel AA rocket launcher… I know the FMLN contrived some kind of pump-action, tube-magazine fed weapon for the 12.7x108mm YakB chain gun munitions, but abandoned it… Doubt it was used for AA work, but who knows? Certainly they pioneered the use of the self-destruct mechanism on RPG-7 rocket-propelled grenades to target helicopters… Perhaps some simpler fragmentation-producing rocket that is cheaper than the upgraded Stingers the U.S. has developed?

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4. How about a proximity fuse for a 40mm grenade?
   Would need to be tweaked for the smallish target but doable

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