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When I heard about Hi-Point releasing a 10mm pistol (the JXP 10), I knew I needed to do something fun with it. Hi-Point is often derided – and often for good reasons – but fundamentally the Hi-Point design does exactly what it is advertised to. It is a functional and extremely inexpensive pistol. The company has been making essentially the same gun for 25+ years, and they have build a very efficient manufacturing process that allows them to offer a gun that is safe and pretty reliable for a ridiculously low price point. Of course, it does sacrifice a lot of niceties in the process, but that is the tradeoff for the cost.
Anyway, the question for today is:
Who would win in a fight, one GrayGuns custom SIG P220 Elite or six Hi-Point JXP-10s? Let’s find out!
Test 1: Accuracy
Test 2: Reload speed
Test 3: Mud
Test 4: SPINNER SUDDEN DEATH!
Disclosure:
Bruce Gray of GrayGuns provided the P220 Elite on loan; it has been returned to him. Hi-Point donated the six JXP 10s because let’s be honest, they can’t really be resold after that mud bath and the cost of shipping them back is more than their MSRP anyway. We have some ideas for fun future use of them…
What is the possibility of buying one of those P220 from Mr.Gray? I can send the data on a couple of Firearms dealers I have used.
Methinks that Forgotten Weapons has jumped the shark.
No. Not really. This best centimetre silliness is from the same guy who dressed up as Gun Jesus for Halloween and went shooting a match with the holy trinity (a three barreled shotgun manufactured by Chiappa) see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI3x30iamHc
I’ll take my Browning Hi-Power with factory installed target sights. Half a century of practice makes for a pretty good shooting pistol-firer combination and if you need more than fourteen rounds….(I admit I have two spare magazines)
Nonsense! Your BHP can’t be thrown with even half the impact of the deadly Boat Anchor Made for Bear (BAMB).
I’ve always taken issue with the number of so-called “Gun Experts” who don’t understand the basic principles of straight blow back weapons, load a Hi-Point with light for calibre cartridges and then complain that it does not function reliability.
I’ll grant you that reliable magazines can also be an issue, but that’s been the bet-noir of many another otherwise serviceable design.
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Hey don’t turn your head sideways – because your eye protection doesn’t wrap around and mud could get thrown into your eye!
Known for reliability? Ian, be careful of the mushrooms you’re eating. Hi Points are best known as Jam-O-matics! I have never seen a Hi point at the range that didn’t. I know some people don’t have a lot of money for a gun. But places like Rural Kings will put Taurus G2C/G3Cs on sale, with rebate, as low as $155. Those pistols run and are a far better self-defense option.
Ian (or anybody), one question about Hi-Points in general, if you know or have a good idea for this. Why don’t they switch to a double column magazine format frame that takes a common magazine with a much higher capacity? For example, Glock mags are common and work fine…
They would have to redesign the whole pistol/carbine. They must figure that they wouldn’t make more money to make it worth it.
Their start up business plan was to make semi-autos that could only hold a max of 10 rounds.
On the spinner, the Hi-Point in the language of sports car racing is a DNF -“Did Not Finish”
Speaking as an old soldier, the one thing the troop in the field demands is reliability, that it works “first time, every time”. The sad story of the Reising and M73/M219 are perfect examples of this and it also shows why militaries submit their gear to the torture tests that they do. So if I was the Defense Minister of Elbonia looking to stretch my limited budgt, I would reluctantly pass the Hi-Point by.
Having said that, it looks like a perfectly sound weapon for a fun Saturday afternoon’s plinking (Tin cans and varmints not included) or a home defense piece for someone on a limited budget. You just either need a gunsmith to adjust the sights or learn to compensate for your particular pistol’s peculiarities (Range time. Oh, the HORROR!)
Sir, you forget that the Minister of Defence of Elbonia is a traitorous wretch. That makes this product an ideal candidate for adoption.
Long live Glock!
Which style of trigger is most reliable after dipping in mud?
The requires that standards for ordnance-grade mud be established.
I see your Hi-Point and raise you a Lorcin…
“Shooting for group size, not for aimpoint” makes generic sense, but doesn’t offer a fair basis for this gimmicky “test”. Six pistols, likely having different aimpoints, would produce a poor “grouping” even if each Hi-Point is more mechanically accurate than the SIG (not outside the realm of possibility considering their fixed barrels).
Accurate, reliable and cheap, the Hi-Point is the pre-eminent “tool-shed roscoe”.
Leave one each secured in the workshop, garage, caravan, boat and holiday cabin, and the owner can move about his property or travel without being “strapped”, or exciting the larcenous intruder or inquisitive child.
10 rounds of 40SW is enough to fight your way to your rifle.
‘functional’ is not a word i have ever heard associated with HiPoint before. while i never expect Glock reliability from a lower priced firearm, i have yet to see a HP that could get thru a box of ammo without a gun caused malfunction. and i have seen way too many that couldnt even get thru a single magazine without causing the owner to say bad words.
a friend had one in 9mm that went back to the factory 3 times and returned with the exact same malfunction every time. i advised him to drive thru the hood and throw it out the window.
Jamomatics is too nice. they are junk/garbage.
Sig- 1 6 rd group Hi-point 6 1 rd groups this does not provide a fair head-to-head comparison of both guns real capabilities and /or problems.
Hi-point buyers are not likely to be running mud tests or competition with much higher dollar competition pistols like the Sig. if you sightin a hi-point for the preferred load and purpose you want it for, with reliable magazines you will get acceptable results from any decently made inexpensive pistol. Buy what you can afford and work with it as much as you can to become totally comfortable with the gun before you need it.
I’m pretty sure the cost of a depot-level refinishing of any of their products amounts to the price of the Krylon color of your choice, if resale is a concern.
Ian, wish you would have run just one Hi Point head to head. You may have had somewhat different results. If the sights on the Hi Point had been figured out or regulated, you might have done a bit better on the spinner? Same with the accuracy test, we really didn’t discover how accurate an individual Hi Point may be? Also, except for the extreme mud test (Hi Point knows they will never submit their guns for service trials), it would have been nice to see how the Hi Point did on reliability, just running one (or all) of them thru the paces?
Or, do this whole test over, without the Sig, and just run al 6 Hi Points thru the paces (without the mud test) and see what percentage FAIL and what type of performance you get out of each individual pistol? I would be more interested to see what Hi Point manufacturing consistency might be like, for such a bargain basement pistol.