One of our readers on the Facebook page asked if we had any information on the Frommer Stop pistol a couple days ago. We don’t (at the moment) – but we do have a couple manuals for the Stop’s predecessor, the 1910 model Frommer.
Despite the odd name and terrible lines, the Frommer was actually a pretty good gun from a technical perspective. It was one of a small number of reasonably successful long recoil designs – meaning that the bolt and barrel remain locked until they both reach the end of travel (in other words, the barrel recoils a distance equal to or longer than the length of the cartridge). This type of design operates slower than many others, giving the Frommer a milder felt recoil than many of its contemporaries – although there’s not much recoil in the first place from its cartridge (7.65 x 12.8mm, if you can picture something that tiny). Speaking of the cartridge, there is some disagreement on the ‘net about just what cartridge the Frommer 1910 used. The answer is the 7.65 Frommer – not the .32ACP. The manual we have available on the Frommer page in the Vault lists a case length of 12.8mm and a cartridge OAL of 21.3mm – both measurements are significantly shorter than the .32ACP.
The model 1910 was the third iteration of Frommer’s pistols – advanced enough to have a grip safety, but still in the proprietary Frommer caliber. For more on the development of the line, check out the more detailed history on the Frommer page of the Vault. You can download our two manuals from the Vault, or get them right here:
I just wonder how could a long recoil system reliably work with such a weak cartridge ???
I guess short cycles were common issue for this gun!?! Limp Wristing also must had appeared pretty often ?!?
What do you think guys?
When i asked for the frommer stop review i was intrigued by its ugly appearance. After seeing the 1910 I think its safe to say frommer wasnt known for the asthetics of his designs
Some Frommer STOP info:
http://www.cruffler.com/historic-august00.html
http://www.oldammo.com/july06.htm (on the 7.65 frommer cartridge, scroll down)
I have two of these pistols in my collection – they are both ‘mint’ condition and one is in the original box – from a mechanical point go view they are beautifully made – and from an ergonomic point of view – not too bad at all – however when you compare these to contemporary auto pistols they are certainly not at the top of the tree – especially with the small cal ammo – nonetheless an important part of early auto pistol history. ( I am interested in serial numbers for these – so if you have any details out there – could you let me know?
Thanks
My Frommer model 1910 has number: 10603
Shortned 8 mm gas cases Work just fine, with a load of Norma R1 pistol Powder
The 8 mm blank case is to thik but the 32 Browninf fits if they are shortned and the rim remoowed, fits just fine The cavety in thebullet shuld be deepend a litle to make room for 3,7 grains Norma R1. Then it Works just fine
my frommer1910 is number 2684; can anybody give an idea
of the market value. TKS